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PostSubject: Can you develop self-worth without some ego?   2/27/2010, 1:28 pm

Can you develop self-worth without some ego?


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PostSubject: Re: Can you develop self-worth without some ego?   3/1/2010, 2:57 am

I think my question is what is wrong with ego?
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PostSubject: Re: Can you develop self-worth without some ego?   3/1/2010, 3:04 pm

You are a being. Isn't ego in Latin being? Therefore you are already an ego why would you want create further chaos by having emotions growig out of control?
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PostSubject: Re: Can you develop self-worth without some ego?   3/1/2010, 5:00 pm

What I am playing with here is the fine line of staying in awareness and being in the moment that is not always seen when we start creating and manifesting. What is the motivation behind the creation we are manifesting? Is it purely self expression of our unique piece of the greater whole or is there something more attached to it that the ego wants in selfishness?

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EGO
Etymology: New Latin, from Latin, I — more at i
Date: 1789
1 : the self especially as contrasted with another self or the world
2 a : egotism 2 b : self-esteem 1
3 : the one of the three divisions of the psyche in psychoanalytic theory that serves as the organized conscious mediator between the person and reality especially by functioning both in the perception of and adaptation to reality — compare id, superego
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PostSubject: Re: Can you develop self-worth without some ego?   3/1/2010, 7:32 pm

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You are a being. Isn't ego in Latin being? Therefore you are already an ego why would you want create further chaos by having emotions growig out of control?

Okay, I'm seeing the acronym you are using as a tool for self-control, but it doesn't really work as a true definition and therefore doesn't lend itself to a discussion on the word. Ego's primary definition is that which defines us as being separate from everything else in the universe. That being how we all experience the universe, it seems narrow to suggest that strong emotion is a loss of control and harbinger of chaos. It's not. How, if I recognize that I am not you, does that create chaos?

I submit, that Ego must be in place for connection to take place. In recognizing that we are separate, we can begin to look for similarities of experience to bond and differences to fuel understanding. If we all just assume that we are all the same and that ego and experience don't matter reality is likely to slap us down.

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PostSubject: Re: Can you develop self-worth without some ego?   3/1/2010, 7:35 pm

Safyre wrote:
What I am playing with here is the fine line of staying in awareness and being in the moment that is not always seen when we start creating and manifesting. What is the motivation behind the creation we are manifesting? Is it purely self expression of our unique piece of the greater whole or is there something more attached to it that the ego wants in selfishness?

Why is a desire of the ego necessarily selfish? And is selfishness ALWAYS undesirable?
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PostSubject: Re: Can you develop self-worth without some ego?   3/2/2010, 1:20 am

My coach told me today in softball practice that you gain confidence through past experiences. Ex~ if you nailed a play during practice when you get to the game you have confidence that you will be able to preform.

Anyway thats my 2 cents. If that even makes any sense at all. (I have a problem of executing my thoughts)
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PostSubject: Re: Can you develop self-worth without some ego?   3/2/2010, 2:06 pm

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Avari.Clover wrote:
You are a being. Isn't ego in Latin being? Therefore you are already an ego why would you want create further chaos by having emotions growig out of control?

Okay, I'm seeing the acronym you are using as a tool for self-control, but it doesn't really work as a true definition and therefore doesn't lend itself to a discussion on the word. Ego's primary definition is that which defines us as being separate from everything else in the universe. That being how we all experience the universe, it seems narrow to suggest that strong emotion is a loss of control and harbinger of chaos. It's not. How, if I recognize that I am not you, does that create chaos?

I submit, that Ego must be in place for connection to take place. In recognizing that we are separate, we can begin to look for similarities of experience to bond and differences to fuel understanding. If we all just assume that we are all the same and that ego and experience don't matter reality is likely to slap us down.

just sayin'

I did not mean it like that. :/ Hmm.....Looking at it I don't even know what I was trying to say.
Maybe I meant, ego is more than one thing in this world and I didn't fully explain the ideas I had. @.@
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PostSubject: Re: Can you develop self-worth without some ego?   3/3/2010, 8:33 pm

So I have been thinking and reviewing definitions in regards to the initial question, here's what I have found. The English language is confusing and misleading Smile LOL The definitions appear to oppose themselves in some ways.

Self-worth - belief in self; confidence in personal value and worth as an individual person

To me personal value is a lot different than worth as an individual. Worth as an individual gives me the feeling of needing external (people/job) approval where confidence in personal value does not.

Ego -
1) self-esteem; somebody's idea of his or her own importance or worth, usually of an appropriate level
2) inflated opinion of self; an exaggerated sense of self-importance and a feeling of superiority to other people


Self-confidence - confidence in yourself and your own abilities

So I do feel you can develop self-confidence without ego. You would do such by creating and experiencing without needing acknowledgement from another being.

I am not sure the same is true of self-worth.

I have some comments about EGO being Emotions Going Out of Control but that will have to be another post.
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